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Songer Audio
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Songer Audio field coil loudspeakers and drivers are functional works of art, of uncompromising craftsmanship. Each piece is 100% designed, made and assembled by hand, and expresses a philosophy of simplicity, excellence, and relentless dedication to providing the purest possible experience of music.
Songer Audio at T.H.E. Show 2024
Recorded with an iPhone after show hours at the event.
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S1x at the 2024 Southwest Audio Fest
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Recorded with an iPhone after show hours at the event, posted here unaltered in any way. The phone microphone is overloaded at times, however the astonishing performance of the Nova driver is apparent nonetheless, paired with this reference level streaming digital system.
Pacific Audio Fest Room S2 #3
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Video taken at the end of Pacific Audio Fest, on my iPhone
Pacific Audio Fest Room S2 Video #1
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Video taken at the end of the Pacific Audio Fest, on my iPhone
Pacific Audio Fest Room S2 Video #2
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Video taken at the end of the 2023 Pacific Audio Fest, on my iPhone.
An Introduction to the Songer Audio S1
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This video is an introduction to our ported S1 loudspeaker. Its excellent performance is owed to its simplicity; internally it compensates for natural cabinet diffraction and nothing else. Tuned for deep, accurate bass, it is a showcase for the superb detail, clarity and imaging of our driver. To schedule a listening session or learn more about our loudspeakers, please visit us at: www.songerau...
An Introduction to the Songer Audio S2
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This video is an introduction to our dipole S2 loudspeaker. The S2 loudspeaker is truly revolutionary in its design. It utilizes our Type D Songer Audio driver, the first in the world to employ both front and rear-firing whizzer cones, both from the same, phase perfect full range point source. The listening experience is an uncannily lifelike musical presentation, wonderfully free of phase and ...
An Introduction to Songer Audio Field Coil Drivers
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This video is an introduction to our 10" field coil drivers. Field coils are the 150 year old audio technology at the heart of Songer Audio's loudspeakers. In this video we talk a little about what a field coil driver is, why they are particularly suited to accurate sound reproduction, and touch on some details of the design, materials, and innovations we bring to our work. To schedule a listen...
Capital Audiofest Room S1 Video #2
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The second of a couple of videos of the S1 from the big 2022 DC show, captured at the end of the day on my iPhone. songeraudio.com The song playing is All The You Have Is Your Soul, by Tracy Chapman.
Capital Audiofest Room S1 Video #1
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The first of a couple of videos of the S1 from the big 2022 DC show, captured at the end of the day on my iPhone. songeraudio.com The song playing is a cover of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir, by Mancin.
Like my beloved wife says !Everything in Hi End Audio is very expensive,Dr Solheim Marbella
I love Pat Hickman !He is fantastic and a good friend of Songer
Hope to hear the S2 at this year's show. Thanks.
One of my favorite test tracks! Sounds fabulous!
I literally jumped when this track started…that’s listening through my phone! I shudder to think what my body’s response would be if I were in the room with these!!!
Yes, this was a truly extraordinary system, end to end. Come see us at one of the shows, we'd love to host you for a listen!
@@songeraudio24 I will definitely try to get to one!
Sound phenomenal using my CZcams interpolation compensation EQ. 😊 I really hope that your drivers get the attention that they deserve!
I didn’t go to the show this year or last year, but heard your speakers through Jason Audiophiles Junkies channel. I predicted best in show last year. This year the guys from Audiophile Junkie group gave high marks for your room this year. Great tonality. 😊
Cheers, they certainly did... top marks from Jason and his group two years in a row at this event, pairing with different systems no less. Amazing. Our next show is in Seattle in September, we'd love to see you there!
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Interesting for sure. Like to know about the power supply, wattage, heat dissipation?
Sure, Dale. The power supply is variable between 9 - 12.5 VDC. The design is proprietary courtesy of Whammerdyne Heavy Industries, and you can read a little more about it here: songeraudio.com/products#ps1 The power supply doesn't produce much heat, and what is does is well-managed by syncing to the aluminum case. The field coil motor never becomes more than a little warm to the touch in the open baffle S2. In the S1, it's a good practice to just turn off the power supplies overnight and at at the end of listening sessions.
I absolutely need to hear these in person.
Feel free to call or email us, Keith. I'm sure we can find a way for you to listen.
Hm.. Your spider isn't linear right? Was it made intentionally, sir? PS Field coil cartridges are a snake oil for me. Why a filed coil is great is because its force depends on a power that amplifier uses (with some natural LP filtration of course). A current pulsates though an inductor coil depending on a sound level. Otherwise there is NO difference for a membrane coil what is a source of a magnetic field. Physicists have not discovered a new form of a magnetic field yet. And these talks about electron spins are for rich intellectuals.
The spider is actually quite linear. I can't comment on electron charge versus electron spin. While I have read that as well, I agree it may be irrelevant to the performance of the driver. The difference with a field coil is simply attributable to the permeability of the magnetic material, not anything new to magnetism. The higher that figure is, the stiffer the magnetic field, and in carbon steel or permendur that number is very high. Even when a magnet is very strong, as is the case with neodymium, the permeability is similar to ordinary ferrite and the accuracy of voice coil modulation suffers as a result.
@@songeraudio24 A fact that you as a designer can select a field strength, could help to get better numbers. With no doubts. I will monitor a situation with FC drivers. It would be great to find this market growing.
@@sc0or Cheers, and thanks so much for your comments. They are always most welcome, and appreciated.
Hey Ken it's Everard, Great sound!!!!! What do you think of the Lampizator?
Thank you, Everard! The DAC is spectacular, and also outside of my budget; but if you can afford it I highly recommend it. I have a Mola Mola Tambaqui. It may not quite share the rare air the Poseidon occupies, however it is also staggeringly good.
Really interesting and nice speakers from England so CZcams vids only for me
An audio dealer friend of mine uses a field coil speaker. I haven't heard them yet. Does the Songer have a wide dispersion as a Von Schwikert or more restrictive, or as much as a Duntech, Dunlevy, Martin Logan, etc. which are highly restrictive to a single center seat? What I miss most is dispersion for multiple listeners. I always give at least one guest or my wife the center seat. The technology appears to be hugely successful with so much less engineering and manufacturing costs.
Stephen, I regret I didn't see this comment much sooner. Hopefully this objective review of the S2 from Marc Phillips, Editor-in-Chief at Part-Time Audiophile will paint a picture of the dispersion characteristics: parttimeaudiophile.com/2024/03/08/songer-audio-s2-loudspeakers-review/
Woahhhhhhh
I know, right? Come see us at THE Show in June... ;)
Why is a fieldcoil-induced 1.7Tesla magnetic field in the voice coil gap better than, say, a 2.2Tesla one, induced by a neodymium permanent magnet? Your creation looks stunning and is a great achievement, as well as a work of art and tech. I absolutely love that spider and the leather surround. But a stronger permanent magnet, even with the drawback of the Barkhausen noise, may prove, overall, superior. Your "trampoline" theory is a little vague and unclear to me. Not to mention paper-cone break-up colorations! (Please don't say that washi is uncoloured). Having struggled for almost two decades with Lowthers, my conclusion is that they have to be dealt with, otherwise the sound will never take off, it will always be compromised.
Thank you for the kind comments, @Full Ranger! Even though electromagnetism may offer the greatest potential, it's only part of the story - lots of great loudspeakers in the world, and only a handful are field coils. Many use neodymium! In our driver, the materials, the soft suspension, the lightweight moving mass... each plays a part, as well. Cheers.
What a wonderful review of our S1 this morning, from Bob Grossman at Enjoy the Music: www.enjoythemusic.com/superioraudio/equipment/0423/Songer_Audio_S1_Field_Coil_Point_Source_Loudspeaker_Review.htm
What a wonderful review of our S1 this morning, from Bob Grossman at Enjoy the Music: www.enjoythemusic.com/superioraudio/equipment/0423/Songer_Audio_S1_Field_Coil_Point_Source_Loudspeaker_Review.htm
What a wonderful review of our S1 this morning, from Bob Grossman at Enjoy the Music: www.enjoythemusic.com/superioraudio/equipment/0423/Songer_Audio_S1_Field_Coil_Point_Source_Loudspeaker_Review.htm
Had a quick look at your website, you don't sell the drivers separately?
Not yet, Anne - we're focused on the S1 and S2 for now. We likely will in the future, however - another year or two is a good bet.
@@songeraudio24 well I start saving my nickels then 😁 would be lovely if someone did a comparison of your driver and something like a voxativ on an ob application. Any audio CZcamsrs lined up to do content on s2?
Cheers @@annebokma4637. On CZcams, The Audiophile Junkie has covered us a couple of times at the shows in this debut year and said some really wonderful things, especially in his CAF wrap up content. I think I may be the only person who has auditioned both a Voxativ and our driver in an open baffle... :) Here was the Audiophile Junkie's visit to the CAF room: czcams.com/video/C_BsmpQinEk/video.html
@@songeraudio24 very nice content indeed. Thnx for pointing me to that. Would love to hear what people like Steve and Thomas think of the s2. I am already very impressed with the look of the driver, how it sounds from this distance over CZcams remains an indication. Maybe an European show in the future? 😁
There should be many more views than this! You’ve pulled off something incredible especially given that you don’t have deep pockets like Voxative, Lowther and AER.
How many miles, ahem, turns in fc?
In our current design, there are a little under 1600 turns.
Just checked your website, yep expensive, very
I hope you'll have a chance to hear them, one day! We'll be at T.H.E. Show in Costa Mesa in June, and at the 2023 Capital Audiofest in November this year. Cheers.
@@songeraudio24 will you be at Pacific Audio Fest?
@@cliffordthompson5778 We're still thinking about it! There are only two weeks between THE Show and Pacific, so... it'd be an awfully tight turn for us. I'll try to circle back and let you know in a couple of months though, as the picture gets clearer.
Ohhhh - looks very expensive🤔
Ken is very clever The Field coil is an outstanding product
Thank you, Bolse!
I've been a longtime fan of field coil drivers and several of the other features you mentioned. A great explanation of a wonderful design! I'm looking forward to learning more.
Thank you Bruce! I'll be documenting a client build of a pair of S2s on whatsbestforum.com soon, please do feel free to read along when I begin the thread, it should be fun to share.
what is the difference between the tesla rating and stiffness?
Hi Everard! A magnetic field may be very strong, but not stiff as it responds - neodymium is a good example of that. Another good analogy to illustrate the concept is a car jack. A strong jack can lift a lot of weight (tesla), but if it's sitting in mud, it sinks and slips as it lifts the car. The stiffness is the surface the jack is resting on. If it's sitting on concrete (high permeability), it will remain precisely where it is as it raises and lowers the car.
@@songeraudio24 Thanks Ken for the additional clarity. So it is not just about higher the tesla number. That stiffness is also a consideration. What is the unit measure and I wish that manufactures would report off of the data.
@@songeraudio24 could this also be described as a type of temporary “decay” in the field strength under a specific “load” IE the movement of the coil due to the signal?
@@polkiju7 I don't think it could be described as a decay in the field, per se. Permeability is conventionally a property associated with the material of a permanent magnet, and it indicates the degree to which the electrons in that material are spinning in uniform alignment with one another, at least as I understand it. An electromagnet can at it's limit achieve saturation of the material, which in low carbon steel, pure iron, permendur, etc constitutes a very high number. What you're describing is a bit like parasitic inductance. But bear in mind, a degree in physics is NOT among my qualifications. :) My education is ongoing... a big part of what I love about this work.
Thanks for the elaboration. Certainly more complex than I imagined… like so many things!
Love this speaker, performed excellent 👏
Thank you Carl!
Great track. I’m saving up for a pair. One day…….!
Cheers, I'll be looking forward to making a pair of them for you!
How much are these How low do the go
@@cesargutierrez4999 The S1 is $37,000 with power supplies, and are available in a wide variety of wood species and finishes. You can expect excellent response to at least 30Hz. In a typical space however, bass performance rolls off to -6dB in the mid-20's.
Oregon Rocks! This was a Favorite room in Seattle for me.
Cheers, Alan!