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I will this Friday or weekend!

That wasn't the point of the test. The point of the test was to show the value of stacking Melee or Ranged Endurances. If stacking it is not beneficial then you should consider stacking other stats you can get more value from like Health, CDS, Debuff Dura, etc. Stacking a stat that doesn't even help you vs the Damage type you are trying to build defenses against regardless if it's small scale or ZvZ is silly.

Hi, almost every single stat has diminishing returns. I have a video with formulas that you can use to understand what your actual stat value is vs it's countering stat.

@@EliEli.MMOPVP is this not the video :) ? i see here that every 10 points evade over the enemy hit is 1% evade. i see no dimishing return. I ask this specifically because I built 2 builds, one with over 2000 evade for all 3 damage types and one where I ignored melee evade. If there is no dimishing return with Evade everything is fine, if there is I have to think about something.

Thanks Joei! I'm not sure haha, but he was the only geared Korean who responded to help me test numbers T.T

@@EliEli.MMOPVP it's all good brother, the video was meant to showcase the build and how it can hold against different melee classes, and it shows just that. I was just hoping that tev gs tev dag player would know how to play GS but he loves his precision dash! xD that silence will play a big part on countering casters

Endurance in PvE doesn't really procc often since mobs and bosses don't usually crit a lot. Evasion is more noticeable and effective.

@@EliEli.MMOPVP I did test evasion, and before i did quit i started to swap to endurance, but could not properly test it. Ty for ur answer, ill keep it in mind for global when and if i make an alt.

I don't, but my budy @joeiteevee3604 does. Join his Discord discord.gg/4ZX2SdMa

Hi, this video was just to test Endurances and show people that I don't recommend stacking them on Longbow alone since I've been receiving a lot of questions about them. My personal build is just Cooldown and Max Health stacking. Also, my keys with Alt+ are macros keys rebinded on my mouse so they work way better than what you are imagining. I disagree with AoE farming. Wand players AoE grind really well with Explosion combo. I easily solo farm Shadowed Crypt and Sara Isalnd by myself killing 15 mobs at once with Curse Explosion combo and Staff abilities rotated in. Wand/Longbow I can even solo farm both places well without issues. I encourage you to test properly before commenting incorrect statements like that so you don't mislead people :D. I think healing could use some more improvements for sure though. However, I do great with my regular build in keeping my static alive on main servers. It's not always about healing, it's also about how you use CC and other utility and support skills to setup kills for your group and peel for them like what I do when I play Wand/Staff and Wand/SnS.

​@@EliEli.MMOPVP so using macro is legal in this game? other mmorpgs I have played, if you get caught you are banned... I only played in open beta until lvl 48 as bow and wand. So I don't have the best gear to do such AOE farming you are mentioning with a Korean healer account at T&L. Even you use macro for self healing, the usage of skills are very situational in most cases so macro should not be so effective to click every buttons of the mouse. Tera Online has done and applied this self and targeting healing in far better way in my opinion, thy should take some examples from that game really. In the dungeons or open world events, players run away when thy are low hp, you run after them so the weapon range is important too, of course attack speed is important too because you need to give damage to heal someone even it is very less healing (healing cooldowns are very long and most of them are not so effective to give good healing). Every stat is needed and important for healer I guess while dps or tank can focus on one aspect only. This game needs a true healing weapon and some rework on the healing mechanics, and thy need to add some rewarding system for healers too; because this game rewards only DPS, not healing support.

@@えーくっと I think you need to play the game a bit more and reach endgame. At T2 endgame a lot of what you're assuming isn't true, respectfully. The early experience of this game is no where comparable to what you can do at endgame. Also, when I say macro I just mean rebinding extra buttons on my mouse. I have 8 buttons on my mouse and I can rebind keyboard keys to them so I have 8 really easy keys to press which are the Alt+1, etc., buttons that you see.

@@EliEli.MMOPVP I only write what I experienced on open beta, nothing more; but I am behind the main subjects I have mentioned still that thy need to care and give more improvements, rewards and some improvements on healing, healing role / mechanics, and a true healing weapon for better healing skills and adding resurrection etc. what mouse do you using?

Thank you. Also, yes I will be making those guides for sure!

Only Magic Eva and End work against Staff.

I was hoping they would have given staff better options to counter gs but the inner peace only works on the user if they are inside the aoe so they can stun you by leaping which is stupid

Alt+8? That's not one of my buttons.

@@EliEli.MMOPVP i meant alt num 8 lol the double sword thing lol

I wish it did :( . It definitely doesn't make a difference for Melee, neither does it for Ranged since you only need 1,200 Ranged End to counter Bella Xbow so any extra isn't really needed. A Ranged/Magic End build is definitely more worth, but I'm more curious to see if a Range/Magic End with Magic Eva is possible. Or just super high Health Ranged/Magic End with good cooldown. I'll be playing around with it more.

No worries. I will be posting updated builds for both tomorrow or Wednesday in Healer Discord. Feel free to join us to catch it :D. Also, Wand/Staff provides more personal dmg, but Wand/Longbow provides more party DPS because of Deadly Marker. Both really strong and what is preferred depends more on party comp. Cleanse from Longbow is helpful/needed in higher Challenge mode dungeons.

Melee is definitely not that helpful. For range, reaching 1,200 Ranged End is perfect for countering Bella Xbow. Anything extra isn't really needed. A Ranged/Magic End build is definitely more worth, but I'm more curious to see if a Range/Magic End with Magic Eva is possible. Or just super high Health Ranged/Magic End with good cooldown. I'll be playing around with it more.

@@EliEli.MMOPVP so if melee endurance isnt worth and melee evasion isnt worth since they have so much hit, whats the counter vs GS lol ?

@@icebox6914 Welcome to Throne and Liberty friend where the only broken weapon in the game is a dumb two-handed sword :D !

@@icebox6914 On a serious note, it's stacking Health or playing Wand/SnS + DR, because your skills are enough to sustain them, you just need a lot of health to eat the damage and then you can insta recover health after.

@@EliEli.MMOPVPyou can with dawnmist some of the pieces have magic end tho not ranged

Thank you!

What if the defender evasion is 205 and the attacker hit is 1305. If I did my math right, according to that formula the defender should have 1100% chance to evade. The formula returns really wonky results when the attacker's hit is greater than the defender's evasion by 1000 or more.

@@PG_TrusT I think you used the formula incorrectly. When I do it I get 11% chance to evade. Try using ChatGPT or Google to complete the formula.

Yes, you were right, it is 11% chance to evade, I used the formula wrong indeed. But having an evasion lower than the enemy hit wouldn't it completely negate the evasion and you'd have 0% chance to evade? I thought that's what you said from another video.

For example, use your formula again but this time defender evasion is 205 and attacker hit is 1206. See what result you get. Mine is through the roof.

OK, I used your formula, it would be nice if you could check my results. I have an evade of 2100. My opponent has 1400 hits. According to the formula I would then have 41.176% evade. If I just assume that there is 1% Evade for every 10 Evade over the opponent's hit, in the example it would be 70% Evade. Which number is correct 41.175 or 70%? Thank you

Sure thing! Feel free to repost.

@@EliEli.MMOPVP , Thanks! two of your videos were posted on Rutub. Make more videos, you explain it very interestingly!

@@_Az__ Thank you!

I have some longer FAQs about this in healer Disc to help discord.gg/VhuyZknb

Going full heals with any build is important as well. Most full heal builds are just full support since there isn't enough healing in the game. The only build that can go mostly full heals is Wand/Longbow, but every healer build is helpful and useful. If you like the rogue gameplay then stick with Wand/Dagger. It's strong.

@@EliEli.MMOPVP will I be able to be main healer for group like that tho? I keep hearing bow/dagger is the only full healer build ?? Will dagger skills pair welll with wand??

@@EliEli.MMOPVP so wand dagger is a solid choice eh.. I do wanna be a rogue but I do wanna heal too heh. Can I still pvp decent like that ?

@@CorlaxCory Wand/Dagger is very strong in healing. More of a higher skill ceiling, but once you learn it you're very strong.

@@CorlaxCory Yes, it's very strong!

Yea, it's definitely outdated. All my updated info is in Healer Disc atm. I will make one soon.

I use Longbow as main. This was just a quick video 1 hour after patch. I wasn't putting much thought into it/the fight.

I have hotkeys setup to select party members.

Yes, it's still good. You can bomb with it or pure heal. If you pure heal, a CDs build with high ranged/magic eva makes it really good and worth.

Oh I'm Eli. Jeri is my friend. Off-Hand can heavy.

@@EliEli.MMOPVP so that would make it x4 than ?

@@LivelyAndrew Yes, very OP> Heavy Attack is a stupid stat imo.

Hi, thank you! You can increase stat points by adding traits into your gear, leveling up your skills, increasing your mastery level, and transferring to higher rarity gear.

@@EliEli.MMOPVP thanks :)

I have some posts about this in Healer Discord. discord.gg/8ap3KjTD Dungeons: Wand/Staff Wand/Longbow (play Longbow if you don't have a Deadly Marker DPS. You need 1 for pt) Wand/Dagger Wand/SnS (There is a unique condition to this list that if you tank and heal as Wand/SnS, you technically can be #1 spot since you'd allow for a geared DPS to take 6th slot) Solo PvE: Wand/Staff Wand/Dagger Wand/Longbow Wand/SnS

Yea, because if you actually LISTEN, I say auto-attacks does not get affected by stats the same way as skills. You need to srsly ask questions when you clearly know nothing instead of cursing and/or making false assumptions.

@@EliEli.MMOPVP first of all, you neither said it in the video nor is it written in the linked file, the second thing is today I will check if it works on skills as you say and AA is mutch part of dmg

@@gorn3662 I did say it in the video and I also reference how stats work with "skills". If you came here to be a skeptic for whatever reason, that's weird. And I didn't say AA is not a part of damage, it's just clearly not calculated the same as Skill Damage which is also why Skill Damage and Auto-Attacks are two different colours. You came into the comments section cussing and and making assumptions instead of asking questions, so if you don't like the energy you're getting back that's your problem.

Mobs and Bosses are mostly melee. It's not worth prioritizing gear to counter them since you can clear PvE perfectly fine in PvP gear. Eventually build a 4p Trans set for PvE.

@@EliEli.MMOPVP question was more about does dagger lowers endurance for bosses in pve so other party members have higher crit ?

Fighting Greatswords isn't too bad. You just need to be used to their openers and combos so you can predict what they'll do. I have a post about this in Healer Discord. discord.gg/8ap3KjTD "Hi, because you can't build a proper amount of Evasion and/or Endurance to counter a Greatsword DPS at endgame T1 and T2 gear, please do the following to survive (some tips work best when you're also fully traited on defensive armour stats + health): Use the Precious Purification Stone after the inintial damage burst + stun so they waste cooldowns. Then immediately freeze and/or root them if you're staff. If you're longbow, use Barrier and Fountain (or new shield Wand ability) and call for peel and you should be able to self-sustain + survive. You have to always be cautious of them. My immediate ways to deal with them is to root or freeze them with Tomb and Smokescreen as you notice them walking towards you. Also, pre-casting Barrier and/or shield on myself if I suspect I'm about to get jumped by them. One of the best ways is putting Fountain and Barrier on yourself. The Fountain heal will help you sustain DPS from GS combo as well as Blessed Barrier."

@@EliEli.MMOPVP ohh nice thanks , will you create wand/dagger guide soon or you don't have that in mind ?

@@blacklord3212 I don't have a guide planned for that at the moment. I do have some builds for a more defensive support Wand/Dagger playstyle in Healer Discord.

Not at the moment :(

Thank you and definitely!

I have all my builds and stuffs in Healer Discord discord.gg/zN6x4zv4